bryan beasley wrote:Nice debate all, well done.
FWIW, The only rule change that has made any significant difference for me, was the extension from 60 to 90 seconds, which essentially made every other aspect of taking part just a touch harder.
I like the rules as they are - although there were a few 'bends'of the 20MB limit this time around - the 'Out of Frame' moments mostly went unnoticed from this end. There is always the option to downgrade your score allocation if you object to anything you see... Common sense seems to have served us pretty well thus far. (although the older I get, the less common 'sense' seems to be - 'kin rare these days!)
As far as allocating 'Flow' (Artistic) scores go... the other thread I know, the quality of video production / music / background choice etc. etc. bear absolutely no relevance on the scores given what-so-ever. (Unless Lara doesn't like the track
) 'tis, and should be based purely on what is flown. Of course if someone choreographs a piece to 90 seconds of music and submits that, there maybe a different case to argue. I'm not sure that's 'freestyle' though.
YMMV.
Bryan
Choreographing a routine to 90 sec of music to put a more artistic edge to it would be fine with me, but that leads to another "editing" enigma. There would have to be an obvious source for the music. Sometimes I will use my high end stereo set up in my truck to play music while I fly, but would this be acceptable as an obvious source? Pretty much every entry this round cut out the actual sounds while flying and put music in its place and IMO that takes a bit away from the ambiance of the flight. Personally I like the buzz of the TE (depending on kite) and pop sounds the kite makes during a trick, but that also depends on the quality of camera used if it can even be recorded.
As for out of frame flying there are things I looked for.
1. Was there an obvious trick or figure involved
2. Was there any anomalies in the background to indicate a break in filming (cutting clips together always leaves some evidence)
3. If a trick was evident, where did the OOF fall in that trick (adjust trick score here during judging)
4. How many times during the routine did the pilot go off frame (1-2 brief oofs aren't too bad, more than that shows bad control IMO)
5. How long was the kite OOF (more than 2 secs is over my personal set limit)
6. Did it exit and enter on the same side or corner the frame.
7. Could you track the kite at all while oof (some I noticed I could still see a couple inches of LE)
For the most part I think points 2,4, 5 and 6 should be done during pre-screening for DQ purposes. Egregious OOF would be like this example Must86 posted of his entry that Mike rejected a few VF rounds back. Link here--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHtCfhrv38EAt 0.22-0.29 secs he goes completely OOF to the point where you can't see anything at all to tell if there is still a kite in the air save a shadow on the ground that you can't define. This particular OOF breaks points 1, 3(no trick evident), 5(more than 2 secs), 6 and 7 of my criteria and I have to admit I would have DQed this one. By contrast David's OOF at the start of his entry only broke point 7. There are ways to film with a tripod and stay fully in frame. For some reason I don't quite get, close ups of the kite are preferred to showing the full flight window.