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Any bird experts here?

Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:52 pm

Came home from shopping this afternoon to find this beauty munching on a pigeon in the back garden!

What is it?

Quite small, about the same size as the pigeon it's devouring (it aint no Red Kite). Distinct markings over the eyes. Was feeding for an hour until next door decided to wheel their bin in. It flew away, carrying with it what looked like an extra from The Thing :lol:

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What with Kites flying over and screaming like Eagles every other week, now this, it's proper Grizzly Adams here in Northants! Loving the sight of these great birds in our area.

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Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:25 pm

Bright yellow eyes? i'd guess it was a sparrow hawk
 
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Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:28 pm

Beautiful!

No expert but I'll have a stab at female sparrowhawk:
http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdgui ... index.aspx
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Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:58 am

looks like Tinkerbell to me...
 
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Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:39 am

We had one in our garden once (the garden in the centre of Cardiff) eating a mouse, I hoped she'd got something fresh and living, there was an awful lot of poison put down near us.
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Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:06 am

Yup - it's a sparrow hawk...

We have a regular visitor to our garden - you always know when it's around 'cos the garden goes completely silent - all the little one's hiding away, then it's all tweet tweet tweet again one's it's gone. Watched it take a pigeon out of the sky a while back - mighty impressive killing machine.
 
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Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:50 am

steven beasley wrote:
Watched it take a pigeon out of the sky a while back - mighty impressive killing machine.


In that case it was one of them I saw dive-bomb a fir tree and come out the other side with a fledgling Starling, almost as if the tree wasn't there!

@krijn - :lol:
 
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Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:25 pm

Sparrowhawk thinks:
"that was lucky,only dropped in here for a new set of talons"
 
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Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:45 am

Sparrowhawk thinks:
"that was lucky,only dropped in here for a new set of talons"

@ Stan Doff :badgrin:

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Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:54 pm

Yup, a sparrowhawk.
When I lived in Farnham the sparrows used to hide in the bushes down the left edge of our garden whenever there was a hint of a hawk about. But the sparrowhawk was no fool. He (or she) would just fly crashing through the bushes, doing a fast series of u-turns, until his/her beak connected with some lunch. Then he/she would just take the prey onto our lawn and feast on it, leaving a neat little pile of feathers (and sometimes a head or feet) for us to dispose of.

But ...
I was flying my Silver Fox on the cricket field a fortnight ago, just where there was a neat spread of very white feathers on the grass. Something had caught, and killed, and consumed, a seagull.
I'd have thought a seagull was too big for a sparrowhawk to attack.
Maybe a dog just got lucky? I doubt it - the feathers were too closely distributed. And would a dog have been so tidy? Probably not.
A fox?
Not a lot of buzzards in the area, and anyway they go for carrion rather than attacking live prey.
Do big seagulls prey on smaller ones?
I confess I'm puzzled.
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Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:46 pm

I wonder Greebo.

The pigeon this one took was equal to, or greater in size to the actual predator. I guess it comes down to attitude and presence. I know that when a Red Kite flies over here, every single bird in sight, big or small, absolutely gets the f**k out of Dodge really quickly!

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Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:54 pm

Definitely sparrowhawk, and don't forget that in sparrowhawks (and goshawks), the female is way bigger than the male. So what would be impossible for a male to bring down might be easy prey for a female. I can see a female take on a gull, but for a male that would be a wee bit overambitious ...
 
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Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:46 am

http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Eurasian_Sparrowhawk

http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdgui ... index.aspx says:
Males can catch birds up to thrush size, but females, being bigger, can catch birds up to pigeon size



a little help with bird identification:
http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdide ... form.aspx#