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I said I probably wouldn't but............

Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:56 pm

I did anyway.

I am now the owner of a purple Fury, I'm not sure why I got one really, maybe as I've spent a fair amount of money on French kites over the past couple of years, I thought maybe I should fly what I would consider to be the most important 2 line kite to come out of the UK since the Gemini.

Anyway I took it out for a quick spin this afternoon, the wind was too high to get a proper idea of how it will perform, but it certainly likes straight lines, that's for sure, I wont say much more about how it fly's as I don't think it would be fair, however what I will say that this kite seems very capable and can Comete as easy as any kite I've flown !

A few things about the kite itself, whilst generally the build quality is top notch and the framing bullet proof, I do have a couple or three personal niggles, first off I want Yoyo stops, whilst I realise not everyone are doing Yo-yo tricks, this is a kite capable of doing them therefore I want them, I know it has a Yo-yo line on the end of very long bridle leaders, but in my opinion this is not good enough (sorry Mobius ) apart from the fact that it allows you to do only one Yo-yo, all this extra bridle line along with the Yo-yo line just gets you all tangled up.

Next, the TE has no extra protection apart from where the stand-offs attach, why not use some extra rip-stop or dacron on the TE like R-Sky and CdC use. There is a trick line that you can fit to protect it, but I don't want no trick line, it ruins the look of the kite.

Lastly the nocks are kept in place with electrical tape, I'm sorry but this ain't good enough, even the cheapest mass market kites have nocks that fit, or why not put a slither of tape on the spar instead (to pack it out).

As I say these are personal niggles and can be put right but why should I have to on a kite that costs £185 !

A couple of things I like about the Fury are the adjustable leech line, which works very well and the covered LE fittings again a very nice touch.

More will follow on how it flys.
 
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Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:07 pm

Craig, am eagerly awaiting a hype free review which is what I'm sure you will do
 
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Sat Apr 03, 2004 6:22 pm

SteveR wrote:
Craig, am eagerly awaiting a hype free review which is what I'm sure you will do


Oy, I did give it straight 5's, but the Nirvana got a couple of 6's.

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Sat Apr 03, 2004 8:51 pm

Is there any reason not to have te reinforcement?

Why would a builder leave it out other than it may save them a bit of money in construction?

Leave it out and people will complain with reason. I've never seen any post that says "damn, it has a reinforced te".

When I first read of this I figured it would be changed in the final kite. Covered le fittings are nice but there are easy after market fixes. Not so for the te which is more important as sail failure is a much (duh) worse problem.

Any kitestudio people on the thinking behind this?
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Sat Apr 03, 2004 11:47 pm

Jad, I had the same question as far as the leading edge protection and the reply was this
"I’ve just finished the trick line on the Fury. The trick line runs from the tail to the stand offs and then to the wingtips.
This protects the Trailing edge and keeps the Trailing edge adjustable, without the compromise of shudder on the lines from a heavy TE reinforcing."
This was the returned email I recieved from the workshop. If anyone has a problem with me posting this info please let me know and I will remove.
Thanks,

I still can’t wait to get the kite... :)
 
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Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:08 am

Oy, I did give it straight 5's, but the Nirvana got a couple of 6's.

Ed it goes without saying I take your reviews credibly, re my comments on a previous thread about Khite site and the videos getting me into this cheap hobby in the first place....one of the points ai made a while back was that to the beginner to serius kites, the reviews are most important when deciding what to get first or even seond, since you have a non existent or very limited reference point. The greater the number of reviews that you can read, the more informed your choice will be which must be a good thing.
 
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mmr11 thanks.

That's a good answer.

Ed, what did you rate higher on the N than on the Fury?

Did you find tangle problems from the yo-yo line?

I join SteveR in appreciation for your reviews and info.

Though I have questions, I'm really looking forward to getting this kite. Once it gets some airtime I'm sure minor things will start to seem minor. As with the te explaintion, sometimes things can seem wrong or problematic at first and with experiance, make sense.
And then there's the part beyond the sense; do you like it?

I sure look forward to the electrical tape theory. :whaasup:
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Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:17 pm

SteveR wrote:
Ed it goes without saying I take your reviews credibly, re my comments on a previous thread about Khite site and the videos getting me into this cheap hobby in the first place...


Sorry Steve. I get paranoid sometimes :)

jad wrote:
Ed, what did you rate higher on the N than on the Fury?


At the time the Nirvana got 6's for fade and wrap up type tricks. I am not so sure now. The whole rating system needs to be revised because kites are so complicated these days. :)


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Did you find tangle problems from the yo-yo line?


Actually as I fly on shorter lines which have a habit of going everywhere I think the yo-yo lines stop the flying lines flailing about so much and reduce tip wraps.

jad wrote:
I join SteveR in appreciation for your reviews and info.


Thank you. I can be an insecure bastard sometimes :)

jad wrote:
I sure look forward to the electrical tape theory.


It does a job. ;)
 
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Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:34 pm

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what I would consider to be the most important 2 line kite to come out of the UK since the Gemini.


Whilst waiting for the next flight instalment, apart from the Dot Matrix, what other British kites have there been since the Gemini :?
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apart from these : http://tinyurl.com/2vxrl only derivations of the Gem and Matrix.
 
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Kites by British Companies / Designers

Dot Designs: Darkside1, 3 and Vent. Nitrik Pro. Elektron UL.

Mullin Kites: S4, Soniq and Abduction. Would like to fly them.

Flexifoil: Pulsar, Orbit, Atom. Still think the Pulsar is underestimated.

The Highwaymen: Phaser - a 6ft with a nice active bridle that was pretty cool.

Kites by British designers made elsewhere:

Dave Maddocks: Did some stuff, can't remember who for. GFAK?

Andy Preston: The Tribal for Eolo


any more?
 
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Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:25 am

John Taylor has a new kite built, so new it dont have a name... looks very area 51.... looked nice
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Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:45 am

Ah yes, I remember now. Anyone got views as to why these aren't important. Just to keep this going 'till we get Craig giving a bit more of the Fury review.
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kHiTe wrote:
Kites by British Companies / Designers

Dot Designs: Darkside1, 3 and Vent. Nitrik Pro. Elektron UL.

Mullin Kites: S4, Soniq and Abduction. Would like to fly them.

Flexifoil: Pulsar, Orbit, Atom. Still think the Pulsar is underestimated.

The Highwaymen: Phaser - a 6ft with a nice active bridle that was pretty cool.

Kites by British designers made elsewhere:

Dave Maddocks: Did some stuff, can't remember who for. GFAK?

Andy Preston: The Tribal for Eolo


any more?



yeah they're around but I said:

"what I would consider to be the most important 2 line kite to come out of the UK since the Gemini"

and none of those are.
 
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Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:21 am

ERRRR there hasnt been one has there ????
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