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Problem with Cosmic

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:16 pm
by Andy S
Obviously I ended up having to fly the Cosmic this afternoon. Trouble is I discovered that it does flic-flacs. What gives? I thought this trick was removed in the factory, as they say.

Does anyone know how I might fix this?

;)

Wonder how many people's heads this is going to go right over.

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:20 pm
by fworley
Your technique is obviously at fault here !

It will do them ... but it requires good winds and much concentration ...
at least ... thats the case in my hands.

-Frazer

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:50 pm
by Jest_of_EVE
I'm sure I've seen someone doing flic-flacs on an Element ( :shock: ), so it must be a timing technique thing.

Can't help any more than that.

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:01 am
by 711jrp
I'm sorry Andy I must have brocken it, find out how much it is and I'll pay to have it mended.

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:40 am
by lasapcheong
With great concentration and NO weights on the tail (plus some smooth winds), I can flic flac the cosmic though its a hit it and hold your breath affair.

However if I put any substantial amount of weight on it, probably 5 - 10 grams or more the Flic Flacs are totally gone. Did you manage to flic flac with weights on it?

-Darryl

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:39 am
by misterbleepy
I managed some flic-flacs yesterday too - not on a Cosmic, but I was flying next to one - is it contagious do you think, or was it just "Inetrnational Flic-Flac Day"?

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:02 am
by ObijuanKenobe
I find that the flare need to be cut at exactly the right point, and then only very light pressure needs to be maintained to tease it back out. It's even easier on the Ghost for me.

obi

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:07 pm
by Stan Doff
misterbleepy wrote:
I managed some flic-flacs yesterday too - not on a Cosmic, but I was flying next to one - is it contagious do you think, or was it just "Inetrnational Flic-Flac Day"?


"Inetrnational Flic-Flac Day"...it must have been.On the beach yesterday I had the most successful flic-flacs since I first did them last year :shock:

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:03 pm
by seales
You should speak to Al, he'd managed to fix his before he let me have a go. Found thedeadspot almost every time. He had accidentally left a yo-fade installed though :).

Jon





4/5 people so far?

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:32 pm
by Tregolwyn
Stan Doff wrote:
misterbleepy wrote:
I managed some flic-flacs yesterday too - not on a Cosmic, but I was flying next to one - is it contagious do you think, or was it just "Inetrnational Flic-Flac Day"?


"Inetrnational Flic-Flac Day"...it must have been.On the beach yesterday I had the most successful flic-flacs since I first did them last year :shock:


And on that very beach my 8 year old son managed a flic flac on a Spirit of Air Shockwave. Not a Cosmic in sight although I did get very close to one at Bristol the previous weekend. Do you think there may be an incubation period?

Paul

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:41 pm
by Stan Doff
Tregolwyn wrote:
Stan Doff wrote:
misterbleepy wrote:
I managed some flic-flacs yesterday too - not on a Cosmic, but I was flying next to one - is it contagious do you think, or was it just "Inetrnational Flic-Flac Day"?


"Inetrnational Flic-Flac Day"...it must have been.On the beach yesterday I had the most successful flic-flacs since I first did them last year :shock:


And on that very beach my 8 year old son managed a flic flac on a Spirit of Air Shockwave.

Not genetic then :lol:
Tregolwyn wrote:
Not a Cosmic in sight although I did get very close to one at Bristol the previous weekend. Do you think there may be an incubation period?

Paul

It's a pandemic :shock:

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Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:07 pm
by Miles F
misterbleepy wrote:
I managed some flic-flacs yesterday too - not on a Cosmic, but I was flying next to one - is it contagious do you think, or was it just "Inetrnational Flic-Flac Day"?


Yes Keith, it is contagious and goes by the name "Slacklinus Old Schoolum" sometimes referred to as Prestonitus Majorum other symptoms consist of 540's and Magic Carpets but by then it may have become irredeemable. "Fun with your wind" :wink:

Re: Problem with Cosmic

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:22 pm
by ericof
Its hard to do a Fade on the Cosmic, a Flic/Flac is even harder.

The kite design-carateristics is so special that you have to do inputs on an other time-moment, than on an (regular) trick kite.

Its what ObijuanKenobi say´s: Do a Flare and cut it at the right time.

For a Fade:
Fly from top down wards en put your Cosmic in a Flare.
.critical moment.: Before the kite go´s totaly horizontal, the nose from you away, you have to pop the Cosmic in to the Fade.

You gives the pop to make the fade, just on the time when you see the nose is going away from you in a horizontal line, (This moment is very critical)
You make the pop to get your Cosmic into the Fade, same as on any other kite.

If you are to late, the nose is to far from you in a horizontale line, and than you give the pop, the kite turns and is going into a Back Flip.
To make a fade: put the Cosmic in Flare, just on time ( you see the nose turn down wards, don´t let it go horizontal away from you) give the pop input to get the Cosmic into the Fade.

For the Flic/Flac: get the Cosmic into the Fade, than pop it out into a Flare, than pop into a Fade. (beware of the critical moments).
Its hard to do it, but its possible.

The Cosmic is a faboulus kite with special flight caracteristics.
You have to do some other flighttechnics than usual, you always wil lurn on the Cosmic.

Everybody: have a good airtime.

Re: Problem with Cosmic

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:12 pm
by Andy S
This thread is just full of Whoooooosh! :lol:

Re: Problem with Cosmic

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:17 pm
by fworley
Ooooh .... so *thats* how one does a flic-flac ...

You learning something new everyday ....

-Frazer