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trouble w/tip stab on E2.

Thu May 22, 2008 11:02 pm

how do you perform the tip stab,is it done out of an stall or what i've seen it done on videos,but i have'nt been able to do it,any advice is greatly needed.
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Fri May 23, 2008 12:27 am

Start out by snap-stalling with the tip pointing to the ground but a few feet above ground level. Keep doing that until you can hit it most (if not all) of the time, then gradually reduce the distance between tip and ground until it touches. Usually for a nice firm tip stand you need a bit of a pull on on the lower wing and push to the top a fraction of a second before touchdown so it slams in nice and hard.

You'll also need to balance it once it's in but you can practice holding in a tip stand from the ground.
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Fri May 23, 2008 7:17 am

bring spare carbon :-)
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Fri May 23, 2008 7:25 am

P200 makes a good substitution for the Hotrods carbon in the E2 if you do get breakages. The Prism Hotrods stuff can only be bought from Prism in Seattle at great cost as far as I know.

Nail that stall first, and start off practising the trick near the edge of the window to take a little of the sting out of it till you get the timing cracked.
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Fri May 23, 2008 11:04 am

I think of it as kind of an aggressive snap 135(ish) degree turn very near the ground which you do not pull the kite out of, but instead let its downward momentum carry the tip into the ground. At least, I think I do, probably confusing :?.

I'd recommend practicing on dry sand (or alternatively a waterlogged field :)) if you can. Helps cushion the impact and the tip stays where you put it instead of skidding across the surface, particularly if you are not precise in the stab angle. You also get the added bonus of that neat flick up of sand when you take off again 8), or you can get the kite to stand up on its own if you get a good stab in soggy grass.
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Fri May 23, 2008 11:39 am

Once you've got the tip on the ground, try to lean the kite backwards a bit (upper wingtip pointing slightly away from yoorself). Much easier to balance the kite.
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Sat May 24, 2008 3:52 am

Like Toby said...

If you can do a two tip landing easily, you should be able to build up to a tip stab fairly easily. Start by doing two tip landings near the edge of the window, then change this to one tip landings and practice keeping the kite balanced on the landing (outer) wingtip. This is easier if you push the top wing back (away from you) when the kite is balanced.

When you are comfortable doing one tip landings near the edge, practice doing them closer to the centre of the window, using faster movements and by walking forward when necessary.

Finally, instead of stalling above the ground and walking forward to lower the kite onto it's wingtip, stall the kite like before, then pull the lower line to force the lower wingtip down more aggressively, and push the upper line back to kill the kite's momentum.

Check out the tib stab video on the Prism site and look how much you might need to push that top wing back. The amount is kite dependent, but Mark Reed shows it as being quite large with his E2
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