Thanks guys, Jason the analogy paints a good picture (thougth not olive green) TVM for that
. I think the nose was too flat in the fade every time I went for the roll up move judging by the advice here.
I will scrutinise Trick or Treat again tonight and "check out his hands" to quote from Tricky Flickery.
Today's efforts at Wap doo wap were really more Wap dont work!
A NOHD will be published for the DS in due course, till then wear sunnies.