Okay... first of all, thanks for all your inputs !
I have been reading your post again and again all day and it seems that you are pretty agree...
Dont mess with the bridle and the weight!
I cant promise i wont make experiments with the weight
but I can promise ill try everything else your suggesting, it is quite clear that I have to work with my input, that alone is not surprising for me, but now i know, that I at least work with the same setup as the experienced Talon pilots...hehe
I will cut it down and bring those 3 with me on the next flight..
I would venture that at least 90% of your problem is that your inputs are too big (way to big), and slow as well.
A settled turtle on any of the range of Talons isn't as deep as many recent designs, but it's plenty deep enough for really nice flat lazies and JL and such, just be sure and throw the off hand well forward. If you want it deeper though, throw it deeper to start with and don't let it settle - just hit the spin when you're happy, again really throw the off hand forward .
The Taz machine is a bit tougher - be really patient and wait for the nose to be past straight away from you in the half axel set up, then pop it round (as opposed to sweeping it like you would with a Vana say, or CTC)
Thanks all.. and dont consider this post as closed, im always open for inputs