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Taz Machine

Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:53 pm

after weeks of trying, i heve to ask fork help
can you lads help to break this trick for me, im flying r-sky diablis and still cant get my kite to taz.

i have studied all videos it did`t help, probably good explanation step by step will help more, also different kites might need slightly different inputs.
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Re: Taz Machine

Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:34 pm

Can you explain what happens when you try a Taz?
Do you have trouble with the flare, the rotation or both?

Take a step towards the kite right after the initial input for the flare. The timing of giving (enough) slack is key imho.
 
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Re: Taz Machine

Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:26 pm

both i think
im flying left to right then execute like for half axel and to flare
when i do the flare im trying to pass 1200 and then right pull.
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Re: Taz Machine

Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:41 pm

Does anyone have footage of a taz on the Diablis? I've looked for a few, but the fliers all seemed to have a flat-spin phobia.
I remember having a go on one a while back, trying & failing to get a taz out of it.

What does the kite do for you - pull out of the rotation like a half axel, lock into a turtle/tip-wrap? There must be some window of opportunity for the second input between the two, to be opened up with timely slack to clear the tips, but i can't remember it feeling that wide...

A slightly downward path seemed to help the setup on the cosmic...
 
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Re: Taz Machine

Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:24 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqyRejrvrTU

at 1.11 is a taz.

I've seen them done by Christian and Bart.

Flying left to right? Then the flatspin rotation after the flare input should be initiated with left hand. Flare and rotation with same hand is Slot Machine.
 
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Re: Taz Machine

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:19 pm

the timing is different between kites, some like to be flared, then you can wait and pick your moment, others need the last pull to be before the kite has flared fully. I had trouble getting the superfly to Taz because I was treating it like an element - I needed to be much earlier with the last pop on the superfly.

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Re: Taz Machine

Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:49 pm

Tony S wrote:
the timing is different between kites, some like to be flared, then you can wait and pick your moment, others need the last pull to be before the kite has flared fully. I had trouble getting the superfly to Taz because I was treating it like an element - I needed to be much earlier with the last pop on the superfly.

What ^he^ says. Some kites theres a definite pause between the inputs ... on others its to be instant.

The Superfly - 2nd input immediately after the first and hit it *firm*.

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Re: Taz Machine

Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:26 am

kareloh wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqyRejrvrTU

at 1.11 is a taz.

I've seen them done by Christian and Bart.

Flying left to right? Then the flatspin rotation after the flare input should be initiated with left hand. Flare and rotation with same hand is Slot Machine.


I think that yellow Diablis is actually in my kite bag. I better go check again. Sheez. Probably needs some attention from Pierre.

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Re: Taz Machine

Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:18 pm

fworley wrote:
Tony S wrote:
the timing is different between kites, some like to be flared, then you can wait and pick your moment, others need the last pull to be before the kite has flared fully. I had trouble getting the superfly to Taz because I was treating it like an element - I needed to be much earlier with the last pop on the superfly.

What ^he^ says. Some kites theres a definite pause between the inputs ... on others its to be instant.

The Superfly - 2nd input immediately after the first and hit it *firm*.

-Frazer



Hope this helps when I attempt a Taz/Slot on my SF
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Re: Taz Machine

Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:53 am

Actually...

Isnt a Taz just a double axel initiated from a downturn?...is this a good way of looking at the movement for the Taz?
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Re: Taz Machine

Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:47 am

No, it is a half axel, followed by a 540. In and out is in a horizontal flight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GroLvM_1KIw



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Re: Taz Machine

Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:11 am

krijn wrote:
No, it is a half axel, followed by a 540. In and out is in a horizontal flight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GroLvM_1KIw



Good luck!



Okay....cos I can get the flare part..the mechanics are simple enough, although definitely require refinement on my part (my attempts seem to have the nose flare too high)

also...in DPMamas vid...it appears he uses a push motion rather than a pop...

Maybe I should focus on my half-axel attempts first
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Re: Taz Machine

Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:33 am

it is a half axel, followed by a 540 :-O !!!!! can do both should be easier to get TAZ;-)
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Re: Taz Machine

Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:04 pm

The key thing that I struggled with and that I've noticed where others have issues as well is that, with most kites, you need to move forward in order to provide the kite enough slack so that it can fully rotate.

If you see that you are initiating the spin, but that the kite suddenly stops rotating, then you need to provide more slack with the input hand by moving forward.

If it does not even start to rotate, then you are probably not providing enough slack with the non-input hand. Or, you are popping for the rotation before the kite is 'nose up' andn ready to spin.

Good luck.